[MawNicker]

It's sad that it's ironic. It's always ironic. Tolerance is the intolerance of intolerance. It's true. Intolerance is shitty and I fucking hate it. I want it to die. I complain about it's enduring existence whenever I get the opportunity. I know I'm being ironic. Do you know there's no other option?

I actually appreciated knowing that someone else saw the same condemnation. Microsoft is a world authority. That it just apologized for these things in the same motion makes them offensive. The reality was rather mundane. They didn't do anything wrong. They got pranked. This should be something we laugh about. It's only upsetting for the 5 seconds it takes you to realize: no one intended this. That should have been Microsoft's response imho.

[magicalist]

I'm not making some cute comment about the intolerance of tolerance.

I'm pointing out that someone apparently personally offended about a culture of outrage is the only one outraged over the whole thing. There have been no widespread condemnations of Microsoft, just a lot of mildly amused people.

> That it just apologized for these things in the same motion makes them offensive.

You're assuming motivations that you have no insight into. If I had made Tay I would apologize too. Any assumption you make is on you.

So what is ironic is that there are people waiting with bated breath for the merest hint of something so they can express their righteous outrage on the internet, making demands for thought policing and handwringing over word choice, which wouldn't have existed at all if they had just said, "well, that's a corporate blog post" and moved the fuck on.

[MawNicker]

I would also apologize. Even though I had done nothing wrong. That's just the world we live in now. He (I assume, sorry) and I are personally offended and outraged because that is wrong. We shouldn't be doing this. We should just explain what happened. It's frustrating to see this behavior become so commonplace. We should just not be racist and not appologize. Otherwise wtf is reality.

[magicalist]

> That's just the world we live in now.

Apologizing for things going wrong when you're the cause, even if that wasn't your intention, has always been the world we have lived in. Let's say I make a robot to spray down a sidewalk and it inadvertently sprays water on people in the vicinity, I would keep working on my robot, but I would also apologize to those people as I didn't intend that at all but it was still my responsibility. And it's just common fucking courtesy. This really isn't that hard a concept to grasp.

> We shouldn't be doing this. We should just explain what happened. It's frustrating to see this behavior become so commonplace. We should just not be racist and not appologize. Otherwise wtf is reality.

You really don't get it, do you? You are the outrage brigade, screamingly shrilly whenever someone says something you think doesn't fit in the list of allowable statements.

- bumps into someone

- "Oh, sorry about that"

- "DON'T APOLOGIZE! JUST EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED!"

> He and I are personally offended and outraged because that is wrong.

Fortunately, no one cares.

[mindslight]

Actually it's more akin to you having an outside faucet, some kid using it to spray someone else walking down the street, and then you being expected to apologize for allowing the possibility.

And there was plenty of positive reception to my comment. Not that I particularly expected it as I wrote it - speaking truth to power is never easy, and it's even worse in a democracy when that power is distributed throughout the herd.

But don't worry, I'll continue advocating for the unpopular truth even after this buildup of reaction finally overflows and the prevailing groupthink switches back to jingoism and overt bigotry.