[awolden]

> 3) if your code is broken for 11 sloc, maybe you depend too much on others work and you have no value yourselves.

That is very out of touch with the reality of development on the modern JS stack. Babel is a key transpiler that allows people to target multiple browsers with consistent JS, and it was completely broken by this move. Are you suggesting that everyone rewrite their own babel? I guess if they don't they have no real `value`.

[julie1]

I worked in ad industry. We had are own 3k lib with code inspired by jquery to deal with that problem of "fixing the browsers incompatibility", because vanilla JS does ,not exists when DOM/browser functionalities are added to the equation.

I learned to use CSS without framework, and it helps a lot both writing efficient CSS selector and fast loading HTML that is reactive ... and maintainable easy to fix/deploy CSS. Once you learned it.

Yes I suggest that it can be done. But I cannot do it anymore because no modern coders want to learn all that. Thus my CTO, and colleagues always complained that it should not be done this way.

Well ... I used to complain to much dependency is fragile, vulnerable and they say, let us follow the hurd.

I say, your code is expensive to write, maintain, support.

They said no. Else we find no one, and no one wants to learn this ol' shit.

Look where we are today?

The mass can be wrong I guess. Being right makes you jobless but at least when the bubble will explode I will be valuable again. And I will make people pay a lot for my skills of having no skills in babel, angular 2, react ...

Less is more. Especially for a backend coder.