[laichzeit0]

You've not given a single reason why Trump would be the "greatest ISIS recruitment tool there could ever be." You just stated it as an infallible statement of truth. What exactly is there to debate? I summarily reject your assertion. Debate over.

[croon]

I've mostly just refrained from discussing politics since I was involved with it more as a youth, as I've just come to realize the pointlessness of it. Either you are both sane parties and conclude that you land slightly differently on values which lead you to different opinions/candidates, or one party is just too ignorant to provide for a reasonable discussion to begin with. This is what Trump and his followers are. I can't fathom why this is even remotely necessary to debate. It's not even hyperbole. Sure he exploits the misguided frustration of a certain size of populace, but that he's ACTUALLY the frontrunner for a basically two-party country of 300M people honestly disgusts me.

If you want to discuss Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz or any other politician I simply disagree with I guess I'd be up for that, but Trump has no policies or ideas or plans. He just says random shit that idiots want to hear, and when he goes too far he backs on it and says "he's researched the subject and changed his mind", and some poor monkey wrangler has to carefully word his positions on the latest crazy he's withdrawn from.

I know there is nothing tangible here, but that's because you can't argue with crazy. He has no positions.

End of rant.

[oneeyedpigeon]

Donald Trump has expressed considerable anti-Muslim sentiment, to the extent that he has expressed a desire to exclude all Muslims from the USA. Coupled with the point made by the post I replied to, I think there is terrifying potential for an extension in related terrorism.

[sbmassey]

Banning Muslims from entering the US is probably better from the alienation perspective than letting large numbers of them in, and then having to police them heavily to prevent attacks like the above

[oneeyedpigeon]

I disagree; discrimination doesn't lead to greater mutual respect. And since the percentage of respective offenders between Muslims versus non-muslim is a rounding error, singling them out as a group is also highly inefficient, to say the least.

[sbmassey]

I said nothing about mutual respect: I was merely comparing the pro-ISIS propaganda effects of "they won't let Muslims into country X", and "the Muslims in country X are under continuous police surveillance".