[feelix]

Right, Apple DID NOT make LLVM. They just hired the guy that did (Chris Lattner) well after it was fully established.

[zw]

And then maintained it and fostered its growth while it became the foundation of modern computing…?

[lmm]

Maintaining and growing an existing tool with its existing developers who you bought in is a good thing and to be applauded, but doesn't necessarily mean the company is good at tooling in general. The cultural requirements are very different.

[iagooar]

Some people are really scared of Apple being cool.

[ghshephard]

You've just described 90% of every major product from a technology company.