[hn_user23]

It would be awesome to see such a thread for not only Germany but Europe. There is no way you can compare the salaries from the US with the salaries here.

I can speak for SIEMENS where they publish the pay for open positions internally. However it is very hard to get into SIEMENS currently, given their savings plan.. I heard that the salaries for the open positions are fixed. I have no idea if this is true. I will refer to the IG Metall Entgeldtabelle for Bavaria: http://www.igmetall-bayern.de/metall-elektro/

- Level: Entry level Software Developer, Bachelor or Master - Location: Germany, Nuremberg - Salary: EG9 ~49000€

- Level: Sysadmin, min 3 Years experience - Location: Germany, Munich - Salary: EG10 ~54600€

They cost of living in Munich are the highest in Germany. So in the end you will probably will have less money if you take the Sysadmin job in Munich.

They don't differentiate between bachelors and masters. I will find out in the near future if you are able to negotiate a higher EG level based on that..

It would be interesting to see some salaries from other companies in Europe. But i'm possibly to late in this thread.

[t3nary]

> - Level: Entry level Software Developer, Bachelor or Master - Location: Germany, Nuremberg - Salary: EG9 ~49000€

Do they not differentiate between entry level + bachelor degree vs. entry level + master degree?

[hn_user23]

They don't differentiate in the position descriptions. They just want a degree.. but it is hard to match most of the requirements with just a bachelor. I talked to some colleagues about the hiring process and if that salary is fixed, regardless if you have a master or bachelor. They said yes, there is not much you can do. Furthermore is it difficult to talk about the salary with others because they think it is a taboo.

I checked glassdoor but there is not enough comparable data for entry positions. However, compared to other companies the salary at SIEMENS is good.