[wolfgke]

> When you've got externally imposed deadlines 3h/day may not be sufficient.

Lots of deadlines companies and thus their employees face are externally imposed (often from their customer(s)).

[quietplatypus]

they are also often bullshit deadlines that users dont care about but gets a few brownie points for management.

[wolfgke]

No true Scotsman fallacy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

[coldtea]

I don't think "no true Scotchman" means what you think it means...

It's about criticizing something as invalid, BS, problematic etc. -- is not even about saying something X doesn't belong to an idealized category.

It's about shifting the discussion to "X doesn't belong to an idealized category" AFTER you were OK talking generally about it previously.

This means that when one talks morally/ideologically/etc. about what constitutes "a true scotchman" (e.g. not in the plain sense of citizen of Scotchman") it's not a fallacy to ascribe certain attributes to the notion (because "true" here essentially means "ideal", "most representative" etc, instead of merely "actually existing").

[bybjorn]

True, they're still deadlines. But, since they are BS, that might be fixed somehow, no?

[wolfgke]

What evidence do you have the the negotiating partner doesn't have good reasons for insisting on the deadlines despite they look BS to you?