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by mdorazio 3750 days ago
But Steve wasn't just a great product person, and it wasn't just a great product that turned Apple around. If you dig into the actual history, Steve significantly restructured Apple when he returned, killing licensing deals and products without a future, and refocusing the remaining product line before he set about creating a single new true innovation. And remember that Apple didn't really pick up steam until it capitalized on the iPod's traction years after Steve returned.

1997 Apple and 2016 Yahoo also exist in very different markets and very different landscapes, to the point that I'm not sure it's fair to say that Yahoo could even plausibly make an Apple-like turnaround happen without completely changing what it does. Apple's resurgence was as much about its great hardware as about its great software, and Yahoo doesn't really have either; it has services, which are a quite different beast these days.

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But killing off unsuccessful products and focusing on implementing successful ones properly is what good product management is all about. And it seems to be what Yahoo is still lacking.

And services are products too. Apple iCloud is a product just like Flickr, Yahoo Home Page, Yahoo Mail etc.

I think we all agree Mr. jobs was a talented engineer, and knew innately that the average computer user needed simplicity, and someting slick. He succeeded.

I'm not sure what Yahoo even does these days. They do have money, especially if they cut more jobs, and bring in that money sitting in that Chinese company.

If I was in her shoes, I would put a lot of money into a wifi/cellular phone. Something like Rebublic wireless.

I noticed Google is trying to get into that market, but they only offer two phone choices, and are charging $30/month for essentially wifi voip, and $10 per gig for data.

I would love to see Yahoo get into this market. Get cell phone bills to under $10-$20 a month? It just seems like something they could do?

Someone is going to drastically reduce cell phone monthly bills? I would like to see Yahoo play a part in the future. A lot of people think they need a lot of cell phone towers, but I have a weird feeling, most of that is marketing?

In my world, I'm usually have access to wifi. Yes, there are times I need access to a cell phone signal, but it's not as much as I thought.

I really feel in a few years, we will look back on our $80/month cell phone bills, and say, "I can't believe I paid those blood suckers that much money each month."

Whatever happens, I hope Yahoo survives. They never screwed me over. I only wish them, and Marissa the best! I can't recall the spelling of her last name--no disrespect.

> I would love to see Yahoo get into this market. Get cell phone bills to under $10-$20 a month? It just seems like something they could do?

Either you'd have to build a nationwide network (think at least tens of billions in capital expenditure upfront) or rent from existing providers (so they can essentially undercut you at any time or pull the rug from under you). Neither is easy.

I wish this was possible as well but the barriers for a newcomer are pretty bad. :(