[griffinmahon]

I read an NYT article a while ago that made the argument that the effect of people who did not support the Vietnam War evading the draft was a military that was, twenty or so years later, when the people who did join became senior, very conservative or willing to wage war. Along the lines of the critical theory idea that some of the Left have become ineffective by not involving themselves in actual politics, I think it's important to not be deterred by this idea of war, as the only way the military-industrial complex will change is if people with better values come to make up more of the military. Maybe this will come to be the case as younger people see decreasing future job prospects and turn to the military as a career.

[puppetmaster3]

Interesting that you imply that Left would like less war.

It seems to me that the progressives main thing is to tell and enforce how others should live and behave, that is the core of the left, the other ideas are just branches. Evidence is the congress votes in USA by Left to start wars and votes by Taxed Enough Already (TEA) to defund the wars.

If you are anti war, I invite you to check out the Right, Libertarian POV.

[thatfrenchguy]

The left main thing is mostly about making sure there is a "floor", meaning that even if you are poor and on min wage you don't die on the street or bankrupt at the first opportunity.

Usually, countries where the right is in power (take the US for example) have a terrible living for their poorest population.

And this is not something you want because the guy having the shitty min wage job might tomorrow be you, one of your kids, your best friend, or someone in your family.