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by tanv_nadkarni 3763 days ago
Exactly my thoughts.

Also I don't understand the "single mom" part. Society does not owe any special treatment to a single mom, not more than any other mom. Single mother is a choice of an independent woman and if she cant afford it she should probably not make it.

Instead of being thankful for an employer to have given an opportunity in first place she is ranting against her employer, this is going to make it difficult for her to find next job. I wont hire such a person.

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Single mother is a choice of an independent woman and if she cant afford it she should probably not make it.

The father of her child might have died, or left 10 years after the baby was born, etc. Saying she shouldn't have made this choice is completely idiotic. It's highly unlikely she chose her situation.

I wont hire such a person.

You will, because you have to. Deep down everyone is this person. We will all take time off to look after our families and prioritise things above our jobs if they're important to us. An employer has to understand this, especially when you get to the size of Yelp and you're employing call centre sales staff.

She is demanding special treatment for being single mother which in my opinion should not be accorded to her no matter why she is single. She could marry someone for all I care if being single is a handicap for her.

Yes, I know people have problems. The kind of people I dont want is who bitch about it and have sense of entitlement.

> Society does not owe any special treatment to a single mom, not more than any other mom.

Just playing the devil's advocate here:

1) Society also does not provide any particular path for her kid's pre-school, which she must cover out out of pocket, unlike, let's say, creches in France.

2) When her kid grows up, society (in California at least) also doesn't provide any meaningful transportation options to/from school. She will have to handle the driving. Her best hope is to find other parents who'd agree to a carpool, so that at least it's not daily.

3) Most work hours are 8 to 6. Most school hours are conveniently 9 to 3, which means that she ought to explain to the coworkers that she'll be late in the morning as she needs to drop off the kid at school and then pay someone (after-school care) to pick the kid up at 3, or drive herself, if feasible.

4) In some states leaving the kids at home alone would be a reason for neighbors to call Child Protection Services, so there's a need to hire someone to accompany the kid from 3 till 6 until mother gets home.

So while society may not owe a single mother much, it seems to have gone to incredible lengths to complicate their lives and annihilate any possibility of them having a career and any modicum of social mobility.

I was going to reply do your #2 and ask why doesn't her kid just take the school bus like everyone else, but did a quick search and learned today that California does not require schools to provide busses! WTF is up with that? We force parents to send their kids to school, but don't provide a way to get them to school, and punish the kid with detention when they're late or don't come? Now THAT is messed up.

How do kids in CA expected to get to school if they're not within walking distance and have no public transportation?

This is ridiculous.

  Society does not owe any special treatment to a single mom, not more than any other mom
That's not true, in the US provides aid packages and grants to single mothers.

  Single mother is a choice of an independent woman and if she cant afford it she should probably not make it.
Do you think all single mother chose to me single? Don't you think her previous boyfriend/husband could have dumped her/died/...?

  Instead of being thankful for an employer to have given an opportunity in first place she is ranting against her employer.
May be because said employer is terrible and it's worth sharing so other people would not make the same errors?

  I wont hire such a person.
No worries, she probably has no intention to work for you.

You seriously need to leave your cave and experience the life in a modern society.

Learning by Analogy:

But hey US uses drones to kill little kids in Pakistan and doctors in Afganistan.

Also society is not same as government. People voluntarily doing stuff is society. Few people through power of majority forcing everyone to pay up for single mothers is government.

  But hey US uses drones to kill little kids in Pakistan and doctors in Afghanistan.
Off-Topic. And taking countries where husbands can throw acid at there wife without legal repercussion is a terrible example.

  Few people through power of majority forcing everyone to pay up for single mothers is government.
It's called solidarity. You might have never heard of it in your cave
>Society does not owe any special treatment to a single mom

One of the measures of a civilised society is how well it looks after its most vulnerable members.

As an outsider it has to be said the US seems to do comparatively poorly on that measure.
I agree with your point that writing this post could be a red flag for future employers, however:

> Single mother is a choice of an independent woman and if she cant afford it she should probably not make it.

With respect, this is a very naive and simplistic view of the situation which displays a lack of empathy. I doubt many women make the explicit choice to become single mothers. There are many reasons she could have ended up in this situation. Perhaps her husband died, or ran away when he discovered she was pregnant.

You might as well say that being in a car crash is the choice of an independent driver, and if they didn't want to experience pain they should not have chosen to be in a car crash.

As I said, I am talking relative to any other mom. We all know women with a kid needs support. I don't like tom toming the single mother status.

Especially when her superior clearly had cut her so much slack in past.

> I wont hire such a person.

I don't know about the USA, but in many countries that would open you up to a discrimination lawsuit.

Employers are people to we expect them to behave both ethically and humanely. Society doesn't owe you much but we can afford to give a little extra consideration to those who might be in need of it. You company wont go bankrupt or fall apart because of it.
> . I wont hire such a person.

I wouldn't hire someone with as little compassion and humanity as you. I feel as if you're projecting your anger for some reason.

Just remind me to -never- look to whatever firms you work at for a job. Because if they tolerate someone like you they gotta be more robotic than Rubio.
I prey that in your hour of need, that the person able to help does not think like you.