[vmorgulis]

> If these programs are effective, entry-level programming jobs will drop to minimum wage from the increased supply.

I think there not very effective but can give a bit of programming culture and maybe the real programming virus to few.

This dicussion reminds my the personnal experience of "prog21" at school on a Apple ][:

> One guy presented this amazing demo full of animation and shaded images. I'm talking crazy stuff, like a skull that dripped blood from its eye into a rising pool at the bottom of the screen. And that was just one segment of his project. I was stunned. Clearly I wasn't the hotshot programmer I thought was.

http://prog21.dadgum.com/87.html