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by diogenescynic 3769 days ago
>pick on the foreigners?

You're being ridiculous. It's not picking on them at all. They are trying to protect US citizens from losing their jobs (or getting wages cut) due to a sudden availability of cheap labor. A government is rightfully concerned with making sure its own citizens are gainfully employed. Citizens vote, foreigners don't. Every person within those borders who does not have a job puts a drain on the rest of the country. Someone without a job outside of those borders does not. So bringing someone across those borders while an unemployed person is within them is a net economic negative. Look at the biggest H-1B recipients: http://www.myvisajobs.com/Reports/2015-H1B-Visa-Sponsor.aspx It's all low quality outsourcing shops like Infosys and Cognizant.

>why USians should have a god given right to jobs in the US?

These laws/protections are intended to prevent a race to the bottom. If the public subsidizes the operation of a company through security, education, and infrastructure, the community that makes that investment is entitled to ensure that the fruits of that investment go to other members of the community.

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>>They are trying to protect US citizens from losing their jobs (or getting wages cut) due to a sudden availability of cheap labor.

Mmmm. I hear you. Sort of. Your argument though, is not very different from the "women are taking jobs that rightfully belong to men" spiel that was all the rage after WWII.

I suspect that my argument is fundamentally based on wishful thinking. That said, you can't have your cake and eat it. The 'race to the bottom' you alude to is already happening with offshoring though.

But my central argument remains ... foreigners (based on borders determined by middle aged white men a couple of centuries ago), remain the last 'minority' group that you can still discriminate against, vocally, in polite society.

>discriminate against

The fact that you think it's discrimination shows you completely misunderstand the issue and are coming at it from an emotionally biased perspective. You aren't entitled to anything. The government is rightfully concerned with protecting its own citizens and making sure they are gainfully employed. Citizens vote, foreigners don't. Every person within those borders who does not have a job puts a drain on the rest of the country. Someone without a job outside of those borders does not.

Also, the last I checked Americans aren't allowed to work nearly as freely in most of the countries where we accept immigrants from. We are already an exceptionally generous country and our visa program is already abused and rife with fraud. To expect even more from the US is just hypocritical and self-entitled thinking.

Why do you discriminate against other kids by only feeding your kids