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by hipsterrific 3769 days ago
That's a straw man. While no one is forcing me to rent it out, it's common courtesy to let your landlord know of any activities you wish to pursue. After all, it's not your property you're staying in, there's a reason why you're renting it. After all, people rent out their homes on AirBnB for leisure. What porn film makers are doing is capitalizing on AirBnB rentals by circumventing not only regulations (not a fan of but sometimes it's necessary) but they're making a profit from your property. Not to mention the fact that they left this person's house a total mess which is already a dick move on the film makers part.
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> What porn film makers are doing is capitalizing on AirBnB rentals by circumventing not only regulations (not a fan of but sometimes it's necessary) but they're making a profit from your property.

What many people renting property out on AirBnB are doing is not only circumventing regulation (regarding, e.g., short-term occupancy rentals) and rental contract provisions (with their own landlords), but also making a profit from someone else's property.

AirBnB has largely grown, and knowingly leverages (with deliberate structure to try to keep the legal risks that result on other parties in the transaction), exactly this kind of evasion of regulatory and contract restriction to make profit off of other people's property.

So, while its been well-known to occur on the side of the transaction renting-out property via AirBnB, it shouldn't be too surprising that it happens on the other side of the transaction as well.

> That's a straw man.

That's not a straw man. It is a rather cavalier and entitled attitude, however, and I agree with you that it should be common courtesy.

I have noticed a common attitude in the technology sector and amongst gamers, that if you can get away with it, then you are effectively allowed to do it, and if you're "smart," you'll heartlessly exploit all such opportunities that come your way. (Note that I am in the technology sector and would be called a "gamer" by many.)

Underlying such an attitude is the unspoken belief that being "smart" makes one superior to the average person and therefore somehow entitles one to such exploitation. My opinion is that people who express such attitudes are scum who will stab you in the back if the reward is great enough.

>> I have noticed a common attitude in the technology sector and amongst gamers, that if you can get away with it, then you are effectively allowed to do it, and if you're "smart," you'll heartlessly exploit all such opportunities that come your way. (Note that I am in the technology sector and would be called a "gamer" by many.)

I think that attitude is found across the population in general, not just tech, not just gamers.

I've seen way too many people take the "better to ask for forgiveness than permission" tack with a lot of things in life.

>> After all, it's not your property you're staying in.

Actually, it is your land. You have a property right. It isn't eternal or unlimited, but while you are renting the location it is in fact "yours". Landlords are not allowed to run around on rental properties like they own them. They don't. Their rights are curtailed for the duration of the lease. This big deal when landlords start performing "random inspections" for things like grow ops.

  You have a property right.
You have an occupancy right -- a right to quiet enjoyment of your residence, with constraints on landlord entrance/interference under non-emergency conditions... not the same thing as property rights.
> What porn film makers are doing is capitalizing on AirBnB rentals by circumventing not only regulations (not a fan of but sometimes it's necessary) but they're making a profit from your property

Filmmakers were doing this way before porn or AirBNB, it's called guerilla filmmaking - http://stagebuddy.com/film-tv/best-guerrilla-movies

"Common courtesy" and "contracts" don't belong in the same conversation. It's a recipe for having people take advantage.