[gotchange]

Have you heard of Ernst Röhm the Nazi general who was openly gay during his tenure?

Apparently his homosexuality and the resulting stigmatization didn't stop him from espousing horrendous values and ideals.

Someone's sexual orientation has no weight on the values system that he/she would subscribe to and thus shouldn't be taken into consideration in any serious discussion about the topic.

[soft_dev_person]

> Someone's sexual orientation has no weight on the values system that he/she would subscribe (...)

They _may_ have no weight, indeed, as your anecdote illustrates.

People tend to empathize more with people they have something in common with (some research suggests [0][1]), so I think many of us would certainly have a mindset affected by our minority-held sexual orientation, in matters where our sexual orientation actually plays a role (security being one of the more obvious cases).

[0]: http://psp.sagepub.com/content/36/3/398 [1]: http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPag...

[gotchange]

The OP's statement was basically that being a homosexual makes him automatically being a lover of individual freedom and liberties to which I objected and exposed the flaw in that argument citing a historical example of a famous openly gay person who was all for everything that's the opposite of freedom and liberty.

If the OP's argument was limited to only the privacy part, I'd have agreed tentatively with him/her as it's undisputed truth that gays under persecution or living in discriminatory environments favor privacy intensely and therefore it could be argued that this influenced the decision of Tim Cook in the apparent fight with the FBI.

[braythwayt]

  > I found a cat that does not like milk.
  >
  > Therefore, if I see a cat, I can draw no inference
  > about the probability that they like milk.

This is not correct. It is correct to say that having found a cat that does not like milk, we know that cats do not necessarily like milk. That is valuable and relevant.

But nevertheless, we can still have some confidence that, absent other indicators, cats like milk.

p.s. Here’s another example closer to home of a “cat that did not like milk:” Roy Cohn, who carried out anti-homosexual witch hunts, and later died of AIDS.

Edit: Adding link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cohn