[kriro]

I disagree and think this is potentially big news. You push us to relax security...we push back by trying to make a play in the secure chat (for everyone not just iPhone users) market which would make your life a lot harder.

The market is tough but it would be interesting if Apple would actually enter it. They have enough power to seed the network effect needed with a large enough user base. I think this entire saga has actually opened up a nice spot to push really hard for the positioning slot of "secure by default". It's been done by a lot of people including Apple before but I think we're at a point in time where the media echo might be good enough for a big company to make a true positioning play. It's also a great differentiation against Google/Facebook. Apple has voiced the "essentially our competitors are in the we make money off privacy violations business" (in other words) but they might want to hit that harder soon. A bit fickle since you need FB/Google in the "security now" alliance but still interesting.

I'm still skeptical about closed source software for secure X but I guess it's better than nothing.

[izacus]

The worrying this is that Apple really has a terrible record of making their solutions available to other platforms. A secure communication software that will only work well on Apple platforms and have a half-broken solution for perhaps one more is not really the direction we want to move to :/