[EGreg]

What if I told you that we are releasing a successor to Personas but that accomplishes a lot more and in a different way?

You can have accounts at various different communities and have your experience instantly personalized when you arrive, without the sites knowing anything about you or being able to track you across sites. When you are ready, you can use oAuth to build up your profiles in different communities and use them to authenticate with each other. Finally, you have full control over which of our contacts in a community can see when you join another community -- that whole thing of "Your Facebook friend Frank Smith is on Instagram as Bunnyman123". With our protocol and reference implementation, as soon as you arrive on a site you see all the friends in your communities that also used that site -- if they decided to share this -- and your social graph is instantly connected everywhere you go. When a friend joins chess.com you'll get a notification from the friend, that they joined. If they want you to know. Maybe they wanted to check it out anonymously.

Truly decentralized identity and contacts that works seamlessly across sites.

If you liked what you just read, tell me -- how can we best position it for those people who were sad to see Personas not take off?

[jallmann]

> If you liked what you just read, tell me

No, that sounds terrible, sorry. Persona did one thing: authentication. I don't want to drag in a social graph along with identity auth, but YMMV.

[PavlovsCat]

> I don't want to drag in a social graph along with identity auth, but YMMV.

As I read it, that's completely optional, and I think since that doesn't exist yet (right?), having that option sounds great. I'm probably naive to dream of diaspora etc. and Facebook getting along, but even just smaller sites playing nice could make this very useful.

[EGreg]

Right, it's completely optional.

Jallmann, I am not sure who you think will be doing the dragging. The community? The developer of the app they install on their local copy of the platform? The friend who wants you to know that they're on there? You?

The app developer benefits from this feature for free, just by integrating with the platform's decentralized identity system. The app or community host can turn it off, or simply not implement it (eg ignore your social graph). The friend could simply not grant you the permission to see them. Or you could sign up and see your friends (who wanted you to see them) but not let your friends see you. Finally, you could turn even the social experience off and see the containing site as if you have no friends. So it's totally optional. But there are so many stakeholders in a decentralized system that ehen you said "I don't want to drag my friends" they have a choice too.

[jallmann]

I know it's optional.

An extraneous social overlay simply isn't on my list of desirable properties for an auth system (aside from WoT type mechanisms, which is clearly not the sell here). I'm thinking SSL client certs, you're thinking Facebook Connect. Different strokes.

Anyway talking about your social login system is getting quite off topic.

[PavlovsCat]

> how can we best position it for those people who were sad to see Personas not take off

Can you elaborate on what "positioning" means? I kind of read it as how it's explained or "sold", but I'm not sure. And I really like all I read here, and though I'm not sure I could helpfully answer it I would love to at least understand the question fully :)

[odinho]

Oh, can you point to something here? Some vision document, brainstorming, back-of-napkin spec? Anything?

[EGreg]

http://qbix.com/platform