[coldtea]

>The rumor was Miguel told MS to "F&#K Off" when MS presented him with an offer many years ago. This lead to CoreCLR being open sourced and Visual Studio Code being built.

The rumor sounds bogus. MS has been collaborating with Xamarin (and it's previous incarnation) for almost a decade.

[jonsmit]

They can both be true. I think the valuation will be telling.

[coldtea]

OK, here's another thing: Miguel has long advocated MS opening up their platform, and has welcomed every such move as it happened.

[jonsmit]

Companies have a long history of saying one thing privately and another thing publicly. If it were public then it wouldn't be a rumor.

[coldtea]

Well, there's the public known facts and then there's a "rumor". I don't know why we're even discussing something as unsubstantiated as the latter.

Besides, even if the price was public, one could read anything it wants it that. "Oh the number is low because MS undermined them".

From what I've seen, the numbers for those companies like Xamarin are always much much lower that BS inflated unicorns with no actual business models...

And there's another thing: for what Xamarin offers (which is in the mobile space, with their support for iOS/Android APIs etc), the open source CLR and the VS Code, the basis for the rumor, don't even figure at all. Nobody that used Xamarin will gonna turn to those products, because they simply don't do the same thing at all.

[revelation]

If both are true then the implication would hold. I think it's "true -> false" which of course doesn't hold.