[Manishearth]

> does not need a good type system

Yeah, I'm just saying that "higher kinded types" (which, again, Rust isn't getting anytime soon), does not make Rust something that isn't targeting systems programming; in response to "you folks are really targeting C/System programmers".

Many of Rust's designers are experienced systems programmers. A _lot_ of effort goes into making it systems-ready.

> it is about what minimum you need to bootstrap a system

Rust works on any target LLVM compiles to, and you can opt out of the standard library if you're writing baremetal things. There already are people writing low level Rust things.

But yeah, I know the skepticism you refer to; seen it in action before. But in the case of Rust I've rarely seen any concrete points being brought out (aside from perhaps "LLVM doesn't target enough things", which is fair). The language developers do try to take input from everyone and make it more systems ready; but there really isn't much that can be done when there isn't any input other than a strong preference for C.

[gnu]

> Many of Rust's designers are experienced systems programmers. A _lot_ of effort goes into making it systems-ready.

That is promising. Thanks. I am certainly playing with it at home.