[noxin]

> I see all of this more a question of "can Americans actually have anything remain private on a commercial device?".

It's Americans now, but if Apple gives in, investigators from other big markets might pressure Apple to do the same for them. I think that's what's meant with cutting the ribbon many times.

[camillomiller]

This debate is global. Why is it so hard to understand for most politicians? It's a matter of national security because the matter is not strictly national, and could have reverberation all over the world, especially in very sensitive markets like China.