[tamana]

You are entitled to your preference, but the majority, the many millions of people who flock to cities, disagree with you.

[JoeAltmaier]

No, go ahead and like cities, that's fine. But the goal of city design isn't packing folks in tighter and tighter like a cattle car. There's got to be a better metric.

And I'd argue, many folks flock to cities because, work. They shouldn't be counted among the fans of urban living.