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by njharman 3777 days ago
Governments have seized servers, governments have hacked servers, governments have had colocation companies provide them with access to servers, governments have gotten warrents to enter private residence fuck with computer and then leave without target ever knowing. The NSA has probably gotten backdoors/vulnerabilities built into server chipsets / motherboards.

You are naive if you think any device is secure against a determined and well funded actor.
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xaduha 3777 days ago
We are talking about relative security here. Do you really think that keeping stuff on your phone is more secure than keeping it elsewhere?

Let me remind you, than if I'm not mistaken in US law enforcement can search your phone without any sort of warrant. Let's assume that you keep your stuff just on your own PC at home, then that at least would require a warrant.

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542458 3777 days ago
> Do you really think that keeping stuff on your phone is more secure than keeping it elsewhere?

I think it certainly could be and probably is. Apple seems to be taking phone security pretty darn seriously with combined hardware/software approaches.

Furthermore, my servers sit in a datacenter or my apartment that I rely on somebody else to look after. Really though, you could probably bribe/threaten/warrant your way into those places easily enough and just pull RAM/HDDs to your heart's content. On the flip side, my phone stays in my pocket or next to my bed. If you want my phone, you have to arrest me/steal it from me/whatever.

> US law enforcement can search your phone without any sort of warrant

During a lawful arrest, and the search has to be documented and relevant to the arrest. Furthermore, that assumes that they know my password (Which I'm not currently obligated to give to them).

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gruez 3777 days ago
>Let me remind you, than if I'm not mistaken in US law enforcement can search your phone without any sort of warrant

not if it has a password

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tamana 3777 days ago
The San Bernardino iPhone was secure longer than its owner was alive. Essentially perfect.
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xaduha 3777 days ago
So that's one model out of many. With a specific version of the software. What about other smartphones?

There's no guarantee it still going to be secure in the future and there's no guarantee that it was secure in the past.

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