[eropple]

I felt that way before the Civ5 expansions. Bounced right off of it. With the expansions, though, I enjoy Civ5 quite a lot. It is emphatically not the same game as Civ4BTS, which I still play pretty regularly too, but it's a pretty decent spin on the formula as far as I'm concerned.

[chris_wot]

I loved Civilization: Beyond Earth, except I could not stand the 500 turn limit. It killed the longevity of the game for me.