[emergentcypher]

I don't think MVC belongs on server-side web frameworks at all. It's not a continuously updating interactive display, it's a one-off thing. You don't have a model object sitting around sending messages to the view when it updates. This doesn't happen. There is no triangle of messaging. What really happens is a request comes in, and your "controller" is the one doing all the calling.

The HTTP server is by its very nature a pipelined or layered application. Requests are turned into responses through a series of transformations. They go down the layers as they work their way to your database, and back up the layers as they are built into responses. This is, incidentally, why functional programming is such a great fit for web servers.