[rogeryu]

> Leica reminds me of Apple, it's all about status and perceived value.

For me Apple stands for high quality products that really work. Just recently I sold a 7 year old Macbook for 250 euro. Back then it was the cheapest aluminium Macbook for about 1200 euro. The aluminium body was as new. I don't know any other laptop that looks like new after seven years of heavy use. Let alone that you can get 20% of the value back.

Take a look at the built quality: the body, keyboard, touchpad, power connector - this is design that works. It works for me at least, and I can't imagine that all these people I see nowadays with their really expensive laptops and iphones, that they still buy if for status.

Take my iPods. The first one, first generation touch, is still working as music player. The second broke after five years of living in my jeans with heat and cold, sweat and rain. I've used my first Mac, a G4 desktop, for 9 years.

All these were relatively expensive products, but totally worth the money.

[ekianjo]

> Let alone that you can get 20% of the value back.

Then you have never heard of Thinkpads.

> Take my iPods. The first one, first generation touch, is still working as music player.

Lucky if the battery is not dead. If it is, you need to bring it to an Apple Store to replace it. Perfect design.

[reitoei]

Out of curiosity, how many power adapters did you get though with the Macbook Pro?

[mikestew]

Not the parent, but I've still got a MBP adapter that has to be at least seven years old, and it still get regular use. Out of the four or five MBP/Airs between the wife and I, we've never had a power adapter go bad. We also don't have contests to see who can wrap the wires of the adapter the tightest with the tightest loops, so that might have some bearing on our results.

[zippergz]

FWIW, I don't recall ever having to replace a modern-style Mac power adapter. I had one of the early first generation Magsafe ones fail, but the later ones of those have lasted years, and so far all of the second-generation (thin) Magsafe ones are fine too. Pre-magsafe I went through a lot.

[rogeryu]

Just one. I'm always very careful with it. The cable was still intact. One of the common problems many people have is with breaking cable, especially at the end of the adapter. I always make sure it has enough space.