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by chrisallick 3774 days ago
Didn't read, but this offends me.
3 comments

> Didn't read

That's your loss, really.

Is it ?

I kind of have a hard time understanding the point the author is trying to make (apart from "Fry is an hypocrite").

It might be the writing, but it seems to me he constantly goes off a tangent.

HN gets offended by people who joke.
Boring, obvious jokes aren't really contributing much, are they?
I find this idea interesting! Look at what John Oliver, John Stewart, Jay Lenno, etc. have done with jokes as a method to make a point have more bite. They entertain and also report information. So jokes' by themselves are not bad. The thing that detracts from conversation are jokes without content which only server to annoy and clutter. Much like comments that do the same.
Ironically, the article mentions you!

>People who have so desensitized themselves to everything offensive that they’re offended by mere attempts to be considerate.

It's not being offended by 'attempts to be considerate`.

I feel like many of bullied are not getting the therapy they truly need. Instead, they are becoming the bullies through sites like Twitter and big companies, schools, and now even governments are catering to their whims because nobody wants the bad press.

The same feminist group that twitter appointed to ther new free-speech censorship board has said some of the most horrific stuff about men. It’s beyond offensive, yet there are no bannings or accountability.

These groups see direct results and the power they have over individuals.

It really needs to stops or we will have no freedoms left and the mentally ill will be in charge of our lives.

> The same feminist group that twitter appointed to ther new free-speech censorship board has said some of the most horrific stuff about men. It’s beyond offensive, yet there are no bannings or accountability.

Because not enough people do, I'll assume good faith here.

Thought experiment: if the feminists are just a handful of loud bullies, why does anyone care what they think? Why can they even get press outside of obscure publications of their own creation? Why do we actually pass laws to placate them?

If the rest of the world largely thought they were out of their minds and refused to entertain them, they'd have no power. Clearly they've convinced enough people that they're right, or at least pointed in the direction of right, that we try to help solve their problems, imperfectly as that may be… and imperfect it is! There's no Grand Poobah of feminists calling the shots, and different people have different ideas of how to go about things. Some of them will be wrong, and wrong ideas will gain traction anyway. These days, I see it as growing pains on the way to becoming a less horrible society.

On free speech: you have the right to hold your opinions, and to voice them in general. You have no right to demand that anyone listen to you, or that anyone give you space to speak. Even the law is more nuanced than people think: harassment is a crime, despite the first amendment.