[eliwjones]

A lot of the back-and-forth here reminds me of:

"Note that, with careful optimization, only 14 gajillion messages are necessary. This is still too many messages; however, if the system sends fewer than 14 gajillion messages, it will be vulnerable to accusations that it only handles reasonable failure cases, and not the demented ones that previous researchers spitefully introduced in earlier papers in a desperate attempt to distinguish themselves from even more prior (yet similarly demented) work."

from James Mickens' "The Saddest Moment" - https://www.usenix.org/system/files/login-logout_1305_micken...

[ixtli]

This is such an elegant way to phrase my general sense of frustration I felt reading certain exchanges here. Thanks =)