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by cies 3790 days ago
> Another fully open-source 3D engine is no bad thing.

Small correction; it is not open source: https://aws.amazon.com/lumberyard/faq/#Licensing

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It is open source, but it's not FOSS.
From their FAQ:

> Q. Is Lumberyard “open source”?

> No. We make the source code available to enable you to fully customize your game, but your rights are limited by the Lumberyard Service Terms. For example, you may not publicly release the Lumberyard engine source code, or use it to release your own game engine.

So according to them it's not even "open source".

That's a contradiction "FOSS" encompasses the software which meets the (nearly-equivalent in practical application) FSF Free Software definition and/or OSI Open Source definition.

If it is open source software (which this is emphatically and expressly not), it is FOSS.

Software can be commercial and open source meaning you can read the code but you have to purchase a licence to make copies and/or use it - that's open source but not Free[-Gratis] Open Source Software (FOSS).
No, that's "source available" or "shared source", not " open source".
Although FOSS has a broad definition[1], most technical people refer to Free Software by the GNU interpretation, in which the Free in FOSS is "Free as in Freedom, not Free as in Beer". FOSS is generally considered a subset of Open Source software.

You can charge as much as you like for FOSS[2].

Open Source is not the same as Source Available[3].

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open-source_software

2. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.en.html

3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software#Open-sour...

The source is available but it's not "open source", more what Microsoft would call "shared source".
all the magic is in the word 'open', not the word 'source'. the source is available, but it's not open or free.
Good point.
I think your definition of open source is flawed.
Their own FAQ answer to “Is Lumberyard open source?” starts with “No.”
"Open source" generally means not only can you get the source code, but you can use it freely and make your modifications available to others. There's some wiggle room for exactly what qualifies there, but Amazon's terms are pretty far from any gray areas.
No, you're confusing open source and source available.
Blame the Open Source Initiative :)