[AlwaysBCoding]

Yeah exactly, for building UI's less is more and the Clojurescript approach works really well. For building web apps, I really don't care how storing sessions, or configuring your web server or parsing HTTP requests is done, I just want it to work out of the box.

[sova]

Yeah, it's true. Although I personally learned a lot about HTTP when having to pick and pluck apart at Ring, but an out-of-the-box working stateful server / web backend would be MOST WELCOME in my clojure life.