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by blhack 3795 days ago
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I feel like SPAs are one of the most abused concepts on the internet right now.

A cloud-based 3D modeling software? Yeah, that definitely needs to be some form of SPA.

Your twitter clone, blogging engine, etc. not only doesn't have to be an SPA, but shouldn't be one because it creates horrendous UX.
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samizdatum 3795 days ago
SPAs don't need to have horrendous UX?
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blhack 3795 days ago
Sure they don't, but saying that you are going to force logically separate pages onto a single page is starting from a point of bad UX and trying to dig yourself out of it.
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samizdatum 3795 days ago
In theory, the only irreducible UX distinction surrounding logically separate pages in a traditional website vs a SPA is that the SPA doesn't do the full postback, which is arguably a better UX.

Sure, in practice many SPAs might be subpar, but then the debate shifts to "are SPAs are difficult to implement correctly," rather than "SPAs for blogging engines (necessarily) creates horrendous UX". There are existence proofs of well-designed SPAs with logically separate pages and excellent UX.

As an aside, someone who pattern matches on "SPA = horrendous UX" might not even notice a well-designed SPA, further entrenching their belief that SPAs are a Bad Idea from a UX perspective!

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fweespeech 3795 days ago
SPAs for situations where they are not needed are horrendous UX in and of themselves due to the usability issues for power users that manage JS execution via browser plugins. [e.g. uBlock]
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samizdatum 3795 days ago
Saying an application has a "horrendous UX" because you refuse to run its code seems strange to me.

You could disable CSS and images and call the result ugly, but I don't think that entitles you to call the website ugly?

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fweespeech 3794 days ago
> Saying an application has a "horrendous UX" because you refuse to run its code seems strange to me.

https://gds.blog.gov.uk/2013/10/21/how-many-people-are-missi...

If you want to ignore 1% of the internet, you go right ahead.

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samizdatum 3794 days ago
Fair enough, but I think that's a separate issue. If we go down this path, we'd be diluting the term "UX" to homeopathic levels. I wouldn't criticize an iOS-only app for bad UX because it ignores half the market.
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