[poof131]

My issue isn’t with placing some of the blame on Churchill but all of it. The world was in a war where untold millions were killed and the outcome was anything but certain. My guess is that Churchill had to juggle multiple aspects of the decision, but the outcome and his words were used to paint the most unflattering picture in the linked article, perhaps justified, perhaps not, likely somewhere in-between. And I truly do appreciate counter viewpoints that expand my understanding of the world. The tragedy and his racist viewpoints clearly deserve more prominence in the histories of him.

You attempt to discredit my take on Stalin with rhetorical flourish, so generously implying that “you don’t think I’m a neo-nazi”, yet you provide no evidence that he wasn’t a butcher. While I don’t think you are an “uneducated fascist”, most attempts to propagandize pro-Stalin viewpoints come from… Not a good way to change someone’s opinion if that is your goal. You did make a good catch on the first google link, but hardly surprising when providing supporting references in HN comments. Wikipedia has the number at 3-60 million, with 3 being the “officially” recorded number. [1] Perhaps you are right that Stalin was better than my interpretation, but you haven’t convinced me.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin

[hartpuff]

>You attempt to discredit my take on Stalin with rhetorical flourish, so generously implying that “you don’t think I’m a neo-nazi”, yet you provide no evidence that he wasn’t a butcher.

I didn't say he wasn't a "butcher", so why should I have to provide evidence to that effect?

As for my "rhetorical flourish", most of the people online I see making the ludicrous claim that Stalin killed 50+ million people turn out to be Hitlerites.

>Wikipedia has the number at 3-60 million, with 3 being the “officially” recorded number. [1] Perhaps you are right that Stalin was better than my interpretation, but you haven’t convinced me.

Apparently neither has Wikipedia and every historian who places the figure at less than 20 million, such as William Rubinstein and Yale University's Timothy Snyder.

As that Wikipedia article states, the 3-60 million wild guesses were before records became available after the demise of the Soviet Union. When researchers were able to study and analyse the records the ridiculously high estimates were revised drastically down.