[supergeek133]

> you cannot operate the camera or switch your thermostat’s settings without Internet connection

This should say *remotely. I know it does in the paragraph before, but sometimes people only read bullets.

So is the complaint here I can't find out what data the device is sending back to Nest in whole? And contrary to the post, their Public API is pretty extensive.

Seems to me this is just another person with a concern around no local control/data retrieval. There is at least one other thermostat that has that.

[eitally]

Well, you can't operate the camera without an internet connection. The only thing you can do is unplug it & plug it back in.

It's really irritating to use a Nest thermostat with no connection, either, since you can't set or control your heating/cooling schedule.

[supergeek133]

The camera is one thing... but from their perspective I could understand why they don't want it working locally.

As far as the thermostat, people don't edit their schedules that often really. Plus at least with the v3 you can do it on the thermostat. I don't know about the others, I assume not based on the comments.

Plus for others (Honeywell for instance) you can do it locally as well as remotely.

That being said, scheduling interfaces are SUPER hard to build where people understand them and it does what they want.

[mikestew]

Plus at least with the v3 you can do it on the thermostat. I don't know about the others, I assume not based on the comments.

I don't know if it's always been this way, but my V1 Nest let's me fiddle with the schedule on the thermostat. Kind of a pain with a rotating ring as your input device, but it can be done. (Assuming a firmware update hasn't broken this feature; haven't used the feature in well over a year.)