[dnautics]

Unions are most valuable for laborers and society when labor is fungible. Assembly line work, for example, really really ought to be unionized for the benefits of the worker, society, and probably the employer comes out a bit ahead too (expectations are set, wage negotiation is simplified).

Academic research is very not fungible. If you think there's a 10x programmer, there's a 50x scientist, a handful more at 10x, and the median (yes,median) "nominal" scientist is probably -2x.

A unionized system will protect the -2x and the 50xs, being treated equally to these idiots, will drop out.

I'm all for free association, if scientists want to unionize, that's up to them, but the broader social consequences will not be pretty.

[kaitai]

Unions are not for academic researchers. Unions are for adjuncts teaching composition, or calculus, or chem 101. If you don't think someone who is hired on a Tuesday to teach a semester-long class starting on a Wednesday is an interchangeable commodity... well, suffice it to say that people hired as adjuncts to teach composition/art history/algebra/precalc/calc/mechanics are viewed entirely as commodities in any city large enough to have cheap housing.

Students will definitely come out ahead if their teachers have time and space to 1) read the syllabus before showing up to class, 2) prepare for class, 3) hold office hours, and 4) store graded materials. Things a student can't reliably do if the teacher is a poorly-treated adjunct: a) get a letter of recommendation (no time!), b) dispute a grade the next semester (tests aren't stored on campus!), c) have comfortable office hours (meet in a hallway, sitting on a floor, because there is no office!).

[dnautics]

Sorry the post immediately above mine referenced researchers, and I forgot about op. I think there's a very good case for unionizing non-research adjuncts.

[chrisseaton]

But adjuncts aren't doing research are they? They're teaching the courses that the research-level staff don't want to do.

[dnautics]

Yes, you are correct, and I think there is a good case for unionizing adjuncts, I just got lost in the post above mine, and forgot about op.

[SilasX]

The median scientist undoes the work of two 1x-ers? Seriously? Could you elaborate on your basis for saying that?