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by lindx 3802 days ago
Not familiar with the lavabit story - how did his refusal cost users their privacy?
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Tomte 3802 days ago
He had to give up other peoples' privacy, as well. The alternative (that the FBI demanded until he started playing childish games) was actually only handing over Snowden's mails.
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tptacek 3802 days ago
Which, to be clear, would still have been a disaster for Lavabit! It's not my suggestion that he should have gone along with the FBI and then continued to run the service.

But had he complied, as he was legally obligated to do, with the FBI, he could have immediately and gracefully shuttered the service without having given up the TLS keys that unlocked all communications to the site.

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nitrogen 3802 days ago
I can't remember whether the Lavabit story was before or after the leaks. Would we still have the Snowden leaks if Lavabit had complied immediately?
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tptacek 3802 days ago
It started after the leak (the first pen/trace order was from June 2013).
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