[zepto]

This is gibberish. The programming tools on the iPad are already quite powerful - far better than those old basic powered micros.

There is also no reason to believe that XCode or the equivalent will not come to iOS now that the devices are nearly performant enough.

As far as a completely open system like Smalltalk goes - that was a wonderful world which I wish we lived in, but we don't - not because of Apple, but because of malware, black-hats, and cyberwarfare.

[_ph_]

Apple does not have to open up the whole system - there are some good reasons for limiting the access of applications to the system part of the filesystem and the bare hardware.

However, Apple also very much limits the ability to run e.g. Squeak as an app on IOS, you might run it, but not download source code over the internet. And if you read the Anandtech iPad Pro test you can see how much software is held back by the restrictions on exchanging data between apps.

I am writing this as an Apple user and owner of several IOS devices. IOS was a huge accomplishment in touch UI usability, now it is time to develop the computing part to similar levels.

[type0]

Ipad dumbs down personal computing by doing things in this way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTAghAJcO1o (Alan Kay talk, 14-15min)

[zepto]

I love Alan Kay, but he's just wrong there.

And since the PC and Android are not locked down - why don't we see the magic there?

[anonbanker]

Windows 10 is a walled garden.

Android is Google's walled garden by default.

There is no magic in walled gardens.

[zepto]

I completely agree. I just think that Apple does too, but just isn't moving as fast as we want them to.