Can you share why and how these Cycle.js users were burned by the framework? I've been considering it for a project and would love to hear about how it's gone wrong for others.
Unfortunately, I can't; it was some idle chatter after a meetup, and I may have had a couple of drinks at the time. :)
From memory, it was based around the way the redux patterns is very top down with a single state atom, smart reducers, and dumb components, but the cycle pattern is very bottom up with smart components and no centralization. So as your app gets complicated with cycle, you can start to lose track of all the different streams and start to struggle with figuring out what your app is doing in total.
Mind you, they may have just been doing cycle wrong, and you have to take people complaining about their tools with a grain of salt. But the impression I got is that cycle is not a magic bullet that makes large, complicated apps with difficult state management problems easy to code, any more than redux is. Cycle is great when you start looking at redux and go "oh shit, I do NOT want to start coding these reducers, can I just break it down into tiny parts and solve each one on its own", but redux is great when you start looking at cycle and go "oh man, I do NOT want to try and figure out how all these bits work together, can I just put all this crazy logic in one place?"
(Disclaimer: Have never used cycle; just talked to some people who have.)
From memory, it was based around the way the redux patterns is very top down with a single state atom, smart reducers, and dumb components, but the cycle pattern is very bottom up with smart components and no centralization. So as your app gets complicated with cycle, you can start to lose track of all the different streams and start to struggle with figuring out what your app is doing in total.
Mind you, they may have just been doing cycle wrong, and you have to take people complaining about their tools with a grain of salt. But the impression I got is that cycle is not a magic bullet that makes large, complicated apps with difficult state management problems easy to code, any more than redux is. Cycle is great when you start looking at redux and go "oh shit, I do NOT want to start coding these reducers, can I just break it down into tiny parts and solve each one on its own", but redux is great when you start looking at cycle and go "oh man, I do NOT want to try and figure out how all these bits work together, can I just put all this crazy logic in one place?"
(Disclaimer: Have never used cycle; just talked to some people who have.)