[marknutter]

> I think our biggest mistake was biting off more than we could chew in using React and Meteor, when we had never made an app using either before.

I see people make this mistake over and over again. It's so easy to underestimate the cost of learning something new. Often times it's best to just go with what you already know until you've done enough non-mission critical in the shiny new thing to be confident in it.

[ams6110]

It's why PHP still thrives.

[explorer666]

Or because it's a mature language, with a robust, very rich and up-to-date ecosystem.

[bpicolo]

It's really not very rich and up-to-date, in my opinion. In my experience, the vast majority of oss PHP projects started a decade ago, and they all keep certain back-compat, so they run with the drag of old paradigms. Actual new contribution to the ecosystem seems almost impossible to find, and there's a lot of areas that simply aren't great.

E.g try to find a sane way to work with PostgreSQL json,jsonb columns in a safe way in php. There's no even halfway decent solution. Half-supported, roll-your-own in doctrine is the best you can get

[explorer666]

> It's really not very rich and up-to-date, in my opinion. In my experience, the vast majority of oss PHP projects started a decade ago, and they all keep certain back-compat, so they run with the drag of old paradigms. Actual new contribution to the ecosystem seems almost impossible to find, and there's a lot of areas that simply aren't great.

100% false.

[magicmu]

Yep, lesson learned big time :)