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> Also, do they pride themselves for writing this in PHP? I consider this an anti-feature, but this might be highly opinionated.

I'd prefer it to be written in something else, too, but - the Phacility team are ex-Facebook developers. If anyone knows how to use PHP, it's them. They built their own, extensive web application framework on top of it (which is a remarkable achievement for itself). Phabricator is one of those rare examples that you can, in fact, write excellent code in PHP.

On top of that, they're running a bug bounty with generous payouts: https://hackerone.com/phabricator

[busterarm]

I'm primarily a Ruby developer, but my current gig has me working exclusively in PHP (and worse yet, Wordpress). PHP as a language is actually pretty stellar these days. There are things about it that I dislike, but there has been a lot of recent work put in to improving the language. I'm always finding nice features.

Really the place that PHP is lacking is on the tooling/ops side of the projects built on top of it. A lot of what I have to work with still seems to be 15 years old. That said, it's getting better and other peoples' preferred tools have their share of problems as well.

[rawfan]

> A lot of what I have to work with still seems to be 15 years old.

Like what?

[busterarm]

Ops practices of WordPress hosting companies. Pantheon is one of the few exceptions to this, so props to them.

Management panels of hosting companies.

UltraDNS's website.

Salesforce.