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by azmenak 3806 days ago
Does this mean AWS will now start charging sales tax in Canada? My costs increased by 13% when Digital Ocean opened up in Toronto and had to charge me HST.
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I'm sure your Canadian usage would be subject to GST (which may be why Amazon opted for Montreal target than Toronto) but I think they arrange the subsidiaries so that you don't pay taxes on your usage in other countries.

It doesn't matter for businesses of course, since GST/HST is a reclaimable VAT.

I think they chose Montréal for cheap electricity rather than sales tax issues. My residential rates more than doubled when I moved to Toronto. Looks like business rates follow a similar pattern: http://www.hydroquebec.com/business/rates-and-billing/rates/...
Yes, the Ontario government has horribly mismanaged the power utility, with extremely high rates resulting. I figured that Amazon probably wouldn't be paying retail rates, but if they couldn't negotiate anything better that would definitely explain why they avoided Ontario.
Digital Ocean seems to charge based on residence.

I pay 5% GST - there is no HST/PST in Alberta. But I pay this 5% GST on droplets that are in the NYC and SFO datacenters.

The credit card charge now comes from Digital Ocean Canada, but the prices are still listed in USD. They appear to convert to CAD before charging my credit card.

charge based on residence

Duh, you're right of course. I know this, too -- I have to go through the same headache of charging different rates to my Canadian customers based on where they're located.

I must have been asleep when I wrote that comment... alas, it's too late to edit it now.

I pay 5% GST - there is no HST/PST in Alberta. But I pay this 5% GST on droplets that are in the NYC and SFO datacenters.

Right, if the service is being provided to you by a Canadian company then they have to charge GST regardless of where the servers are. The same goes for Tarsnap -- my servers are EC2 instances in the US, but I remit GST/HST for my Canadian customers.

Can't you claim that as HST input tax credits though? It's not really fair to claim your costs went up 13% when it's all refundable.
True - short-term cashflow requirements increased by 13% is more accurate, due to the delay in getting the HST rebate cheque
That is very short-term, though -- small businesses are only required to file GST/HST returns annually, but you can elect to file quarterly or even monthly, and I've always had a cheque in my hands within two weeks.