[hitekker]

"San Francisco is a baby town, a joke, compared to what's going on in Manhattan."

I don't particularly have a soft spot for either city, but I agree with you on the note of maturity. Manhattan has a far better idea of what it's doing compared to SF.

[nzoschke]

I agree about the Manhattan to SF comparison.

But if you take a less cynical view, doesn't this mean that SF represents a remarkable opportunity?

At some point the population has to get it together, elect better reps, reject the nimbyism and build more towers and trains.

It's actually happening as we speak. New bay bridge, extensions of muni, transbay tower, Salesforce tower, ...

I'm biased living in SF, just getting married, and avoiding the current market rate rents. but I see tremendous opportunities in SF.

Which is crazy to think given all the advantages - nature, water, work, weather - SF has over most other places.

[hitekker]

Agreed. That reminds of this old quote (replace france with SF):

>God just finished creating the world. He looks his creation and see France.

>"This country is to beautiful. It's unfair for the others countries."

>And so, God created the French.

On a side note, congratulations on getting married. Hope all goes well.