[wordbank]

What a thought through objection!

Here's a perfect example of the "responsible" Russian culture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=438sGy9IE58

This video is not fake - I've experienced this kind of alienation (and even hostility) for over 20 years.

[Nimitz14]

russnewcomer never implied that Russia had a responsible culture. I think you misunderstood his post. For some reason you decided to use his comment as a soapbox to broadcast your own views. Your comment is a non-sequitur (look it up).

And by the way, fwiw as somebody with multiple citizenships, including American and Russian, I prefer the Russian attitude. People can have different opinions. ;)

[wordbank]

All people are talking to broadcast their views.

In this case I just opposed to these statements because I thought he had some utopian views of life there:

> It's about when other people become dependent on you.

> I think this is the way that it has long been thought of in cultures outside of the post-Enlightenment West. This was my strong opinion after reading Dostoyevsky, Tolstoy, (Russia isn't western like the rest of Europe)

Nothing in Russian culture is "long been thought" about responsibility. You could say it about Japanese or Korean cultures probably - people kill themselves there because of failed responsibilities.

[russnewcomer]

I don't have any utopian view of life in Russia or anywhere. And I was not intending to make a statement about modern Russia or really Russian culture, more about my observations from reading classic Russian literature. I think modern Russia has, like America, a confluence of old and new philosophies that contend with each other, and produce different results different places in culture.

But in my thinking on this subject, at least, there is a difference between dependency and responsibility that I think maybe doesn't come across the best.

[wordbank]

Understood, sorry if I sounded rude then.

I've encountered many stereotypes on this topic from non-Russian russophiles in the last politically-intensive years - that's why I responded hotheadedly.