[kyleblarson]

And on top of that Oregon is actually a desirable place to live as compared with MA or CA.

[davidw]

California has a bunch of great stuff going for it in terms of weather, a variety of landscapes, and so on, but between the NIMBYs and the inability to deal with density... yeah, it's got some serious problems too.

I visited Boston once in the summer. Nice place, but no way would I ever live there.

[Greenisus]

I have to disagree with you there, but only about the part where you say MA and CA are not desirable. Oregon is a wonderful place, but Massachusetts and California are also great. I'd be happy to live in any of them (I live in California).

[thrownaway2424]

I've heard that the bird sanctuaries are lovely this time of year.