[hackuser]

You are of course welcome to your preferences and opinion, but shouldn't others also be able to make their own choice that they want privacy? Certainly many feel that way.

I've tried to put together a smartphone that simply gives me the choice: Control over my own data. It seems nearly impossible without a large investment.

[miguelrochefort]

No. It's not up to you. You have no right (or at least shouldn't) to expect me from ignoring or forgetting any data whatsoever. You can't just come to me and ask me to forget that you crossed the street. You can't ask me to forget what I just heard. For some reasons, you people seem to think that you have exclusive rights over any information that involves you. In a way, it's just like the music industry trying to stop people from accessing their content through PIPA/SOPA. You're supporting censorship. You're destroying my freedom to information.

On the other hand, you hurt yourself the most. You don't seem to realize that you're rejecting all social interactions that lead us where we are today. You'd rather live alone in the mountains, isolated from evil people like me that want to capture your information. You fund Kickstarter campaigns that build devices and network that willingly gets rid of everything that makes them valuable. And you don't even realize that's a problem.

What I see is a group of people that are scared. Afraid to take risks. You pick the blue pill, hoping to reduce potential losses while completely ignoring all of the gains the red pill would make possible. I can't blame you, loss aversion is a bitch that drives you blind.

[tremon]

> No. It's not up to you. You have no right (or at least shouldn't) to expect me from ignoring or forgetting any data whatsoever

But should I have the right not to tell you about myself?

For that matter, do you have the right not to tell me your credit card number and expiration date?

[miguelrochefort]

Of course you have the right not to tell me something. I'm not advocating coercion, quite the opposite.

[tremon]

So, people are allowed to make their own choice that they want privacy? Then what were you responding to when you said "no, it's not up to you"?

[miguelrochefort]

Sure, you're free to decide whether you want privacy or not.

Just don't believe this magically prevent others from accessing and using data that involves you. Don't expect me to respect your preferences when I go through you data.

[wfo]

Wow I hope you never have any amount of power over any computer system that handles data. Even for the brief moment before you are fired, what a disaster.