[joesmo]

No, I said you can't compare people's suffering because you can't measure it, regardless of what's causing that suffering.

[isolate]

All I'm doing is trying to examine your claim at the extremes. At the other end, are we able to tell the difference between zero suffering and some suffering?

[lucio]

yes you can, a beaten wife is suffering more than a person who gets insulted. Both are suffering, but the wife is in the worst situation.