[venomsnake]

I think that Hilary may be known in the future as the one that lost presidency twice.

Pundits are greatly underestimating the anti establishment sentiments in the populace. And the Hilary supporters I know right now are smugger than crosfitting vegans. Hubris is the easiest path to a politician downfall and there is quite a lot of it in Hilary's warehouse.

Edit: I also don't think that Bill really wants her to be president. His legacy turns from - ruled during the best years of Pax Americana to the husband of the first woman president. I would not be surprised if he pulls his punches.

[skwirl]

>I think that Hilary may be known in the future as the one that lost presidency twice.

What about Romney and McCain?

[mfisher87]

They were never seen as "having" the presidency. Hillary was seen as "inevitable" in two elections now, and lost the first.

[venomsnake]

They had the deck stacked against them. For Hillary both 2008 and 2016 the attitude is of "elections are just some formality nuisance"