[MBlume]

So pg predicts that hackers are going to hate Java. Hackers mostly hate Java. Because of this, pg predicts Java will be unsuccessful. Java's actually pretty successful. This is kind of sobering. Possibly we overestimate the social influence of hackers.

[suyash]

There is a big difference between hackers and professional programmers. He is clearly not talking about the latter.

[MBlume]

I'm confused about why you think I thought he was