[x5n1]

Software based networking on BSD. Can't trust American vendors for anything. Is this what you wanted Mr. NSA? Good job at sabotaging your own business interests. It's not that you're spying, it's that you're so promiscuous about it.

[adrtessier]

Don't sell JunOS short. It is far more complex than "software networking on BSD" and has a lot of proprietary bits.

Junos (FreeBSD) is the Routing Engine; Juniper hardware also contains an ASIC-based Packet Forwarding Engine, which loads microcode from the Routing Engine upon boot. Not everything's in Junos all the time, but since the PFE loads its embedded OS from the Routing Engine kernel, you could just pwn the Routing Engine and then also have some sense of persistence in the PFE on reboot, probably. I don't know much about how the PFEs work internally.

I'm certainly no FreeBSD/JunOS expert. I am an unabashed fanboy of JunOS's *nix-y structure, though, vs. the monolithic binary that is IOS. (There was a great Blackhat 2011 talk on IOS reverse engineering, if you are interested in that sort of thing. [1])

[1] [PDF Warning] https://media.blackhat.com/bh-eu-11/Sebastian_Muniz/BlackHat...

[qb45]

I think your parent didn't mean that "JunOS is just software networking on BSD" but that "software networking on BSD is all that can be trusted because NSA screws commercial products".

And of course it doesn't have to be NSA. Maybe some foreign spies or pretty much anybody interested in spying on some Juniper's customers.

Or even a bored employee doing it for bragging rights. FWIW, I once worked for a (reasonably big) corp making software which has to run as root and I'm pretty sure I'd have been able to slip some small privilege escalation backdoor in there if I felt like doing so. But I have to admit that their products weren't as security critical (and, actually, already had some vulns), so one could hope that Juniper and Cisco are better than that.