[estefan]

> In the worst case you get the whole 'in the future everyone will program and programmers will become totally redundant'.

Yeah, not going to happen because not everyone can think in the level of detail required to program.

Some people just think programming is like waving a magic wand, but when you keep asking them "so, what should it do if this happens? What about if that happens?" they slowly start to understand...

[lolo_]

Yeah this is exactly what I mean by a certain kind of logical thinking. It's made worse by these tasks seeming a lot more simple than they actually are, before you even think about accidental complexity.

What's frustrating is when programmers mistake inherent complexity for the accidental kind and therefore label the whole enterprise a terrible mess.

In fact overall I think this distracts from ACTUAL accidental complexity since if you think programming is generally terrible you'll probably not be too interested in some small details of that :)