[TeMPOraL]

> People are responsible for their own actions and own lives, not their environments. Lets move on

The point is, they are only to a degree. It's actually our cultural meme of pesonal responsibility that makes us blame everything on an individual's lack of discipline - even problems systemic in nature. And then we're surprised we can't solve obesity or poverty. Free will is overrated.

What confuses me a bit is that people are so quick to assume that everything is about discipline, and yet the entire marketing industry is one big proof that free will can be easily overriden by the environment.

[gerbilly]

>It's actually our cultural meme of pesonal responsibility that makes us blame everything on an individual's lack of discipline - even problems systemic in nature

This is the: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis