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by osmala 3852 days ago
Lets start with simple facts, current government is formed by rightwing parties. [Not so rightwing by american standards].

~1000€ is what ultra leftwing party's youth group proposes. ~600€ is what the Green leftist party proposes

The right wing parties talks about creating motivation for people to get to work with the basic income. A newspaper supporting prime minister party's talk about either partial basic income of 550€ with it replacing most benefits or full basic income of 800€ with absolute cutting of other benefits.

What I'd like to see most is basic income combined with true flat tax. No tax deductions, minimal bureaucracy. If we are going to pay certain minimal support to everyone to keep them from going too desperate, we could as well pay it to everyone and then start taxing from first euro earned with the flat percentage.

Instead of current system in which people send lots of separate applications for different benefits and then people paid by government has to work. And when you get raise you probably need to get new tax form from tax office to give your employer.

What well made basic income should give is instead of having long plateau after the minimum everyone is guaranteed to get one way or other, is a way for everyone to get that minimal guaranteed all the time and any marginal employment would increase income over that. And most of the cost would be got from reducing number of government employees required to handle it. Everyone doing the math should consider that only real cost of basic income is when someone earns less than (1/taxrate)*basic income and more than what government currently gives to poor. And it eliminates cost of MANY government jobs handling papers for benefits, and makes easier to take a job for a day or two or week or two because you cannot loose benefits for it. Or loose benefits for starting your own business.