[fredkbloggs]

> You are being overly pedantic when it comes to _science_ and I say this as a trained scientist.

Reckon you're part of the problem, then. Appeal to authority and a refusal to hold research to a high standard.

> They should at minimum lose their jobs, have any research redacted from journals and possibly face jail time.

We agree on this. I don't even see how it's controversial. I'd just like to see the other 99% of crap science handled the same way.

[sitkack]

We can't hold science to a higher standard than the rest of the world. You and I would both like this to be a more principled place, but one thing can't be the pin. It has to be across the board.

Most of everything is crap, the good stuff survives mostly. The bad stuff survives as crap mythos and some good stuff goes under.