[mipapage]

Sure, I don't think they have ever hid the fact that they play the game, what they are trying to do is play it in a responsible manner. Yvon Chouinard's book is worth a read, it's a fine line to tread and, in my opinion, lazy to take the cynical way out. (Not that I think you are!)

[famousactress]

Yeah. Definitely don't let me ruin it for you. The snotty examples were mine, not his. I'm the sanctimonious asshole.